Why You Don’t Need to Code to Make $100K+ in Tech w/ A.D. | 1% Man Podcast #084

Episode 84 April 29, 2025 00:33:32
Why You Don’t Need to Code to Make $100K+ in Tech w/ A.D. | 1% Man Podcast #084
The 1% Man Podcast
Why You Don’t Need to Code to Make $100K+ in Tech w/ A.D. | 1% Man Podcast #084

Apr 29 2025 | 00:33:32

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Bertrand Ngampa Bertrand Ngampa

Show Notes

Episode Summary (Show Notes):

In this powerful episode, Bertrand sits down with A.D., an RPA (Robotic Process Automation) expert, transformational coach, and former network marketer who helps everyday men land six-figure remote jobs in tech—without a traditional IT background.

They unpack the truth about money, mindset, and the myths keeping men broke, burnt out, and boxed in. A.D. breaks down exactly why RPA is the most slept-on path into tech, how to land a job in under 6 months (without a degree), and why your beliefs—not your background—are usually the problem.

This episode is a must-listen for men who want more income, more freedom, and more options.


What You’ll Learn:


Quotes That Hit:

“It’s hard to get better and look good at the same time. Mastery takes ugly reps.”
“Money isn't your best asset—time is. Invest in anything that buys your time back.”
“You can’t Google your way into a six-figure job. Get a mentor.
“You don’t need a tech degree to win in tech. You need a coach, a strategy, and belief.”
“Everything in life is supposed to be fun. If it's not, you’re in the wrong room—or mindset.”


Episode Breakdown:

00:00 – Intro: A.D. drops in from the universe's perfect timing
02:00 – What A.D. would tell his 18-year-old self
06:00 – Why fun is the indicator of whether you’re aligned
11:00 – Network marketing bootcamp & rejecting your own excuses
18:00 – What is RPA & why it’s the simplest entry into tech
22:00 – The 4 Steps to Break Into Tech: Skill, Footprint, Social Skills, Grind
31:00 – Why mentorship saves time, money, and mental health
39:00 – A.D.’s $1,000 Challenge: Find a simpler tech path than RPA
45:00 – The truth about “job-ready” and why belief beats knowledge
50:00 – Final Words: Master the game by learning to have fun


Affirmation of the Episode:

“I am allowed to enjoy this process. My success will be fun, not just hard.”


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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back to the one percent man podcast. I got AD here with me. AD how you doing? [00:00:06] Speaker B: I'm good, brother. I appreciate you reaching out. You know, it's funny, this morning I was like, man, I need to do another podcast so I can turn in some clips. You know, I literally had that thought. So when you reached out, I was like, bro, just, it's just abundant. It's just, it's just coming to me. So I appreciate you, man. Thank you for having me. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Oh, man, I. Well, shoot, I appreciate you saying yes because one of those things is that like timing and schedules and everything, right? Like, if we, because we didn't do it today, you were going to be busy this evening. I was going to be busy this evening, tomorrow. You're, you're, you know what I mean? Like, we have so much going on, so we don't know when we're going to make it happen. So the Billy that we just hopped on made it happen in like, what, 10 minutes? You know what I'm saying? So not everybody knows you like I do. So I want to ask you three questions so myself and the listeners can get to know you better. Is that cool? [00:00:54] Speaker B: For sure. [00:00:55] Speaker A: All right, question number one. If you could speak to your 18 year old self, what would you tell him and why? [00:01:02] Speaker B: I think about this in the shower all the time. Yeah. This might sound cliche. I don't necessarily know if I would tell him anything because it's just like I am like, I, I've accomplished almost like everything I've ever wanted to do at this point. So now it's like, okay, what's next? Right? So like, if you talk to, if I talk to 18 year old me and I say, hey, don't do this and do this, like it would, it would, you know, change the trajectory. But everything I've done up until now is benefiting me now, right? From software development to network marketing to life insurance to, you know, like all I take skills from everywhere and everything that I've done and all of it has gotten me to where I am today, right? So I could, if I could say anything, I just like, hey, bro, you have no idea what you're about to get out here and do. Like, you're going to like kill it. You're going to create a life that, that only very, very few people could, could ever imagine. So, you know, have fun. That's what I would say. I would say have fun because the whole process is supposed to be fun. If I'm not having fun, something's wrong. That's what I would say. [00:02:18] Speaker A: So it's funny enough, I always believe that the process, like, that my fun in the process is me suffering and me. And me seeing everybody else having this enjoyment. Right? [00:02:29] Speaker B: So, okay, okay. [00:02:32] Speaker A: But, but, but that's, that's not. That's not about me. But I like, the one thing I like that you said was that, like, I wouldn't change it and I would just tell them, have fun. Right? Because this notion of always going back and changing what you've done. But I think I'm thinking back and I'm trying to remember, I believe this is the first time someone's ever said, I wouldn't change anything because I would tell them to have fun. [00:02:52] Speaker B: Right? [00:02:52] Speaker A: And if I'm not having fun, then, I mean, what's the point? And. And I guess. And I totally get that. But, yeah. [00:03:00] Speaker B: And my personal saying is, don't do you hate. Okay. Which sounds funny because it's like, who would do they hate? Except 90% of people wake up every morning and go to a job they hate. Right? So when I say have fun, I mean, like, you don't have to hate. Like, like whether you choose to. I'm sorry, let me start over. Whether you enjoy something or not is a personal choice. So I've had jobs that I hated, but it was like, okay, while I'm here, I'm going to talk to my buddy Joe. Man, when I'm talking with Joe, I'm enjoying myself. So now I'm not hating the process. Right? So if I can't find an aspect of this to enjoy, then I need to get the hell out of here. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I. I can get behind that. I can get behind that. I can get behind that. Yeah. I think those aspects of, like, being. Being like, I don't know if I'm a military. [00:03:53] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. But my. My network marketing past career was like. I call it my. My military boot camp because it was. [00:04:02] Speaker A: There's aspects of that that you hate. But. But when you look back, there's a lot of enjoyment that you've had because of the skills that you've acquired that other people, you know, never acquired. The ability to be rejected over and over and over again. And to be convicted in something too, as well. It's funny enough, I apologize to my brother because I joined somebody else's network marketing team than his. You know, I feel like that was, like, probably the worst decision I ever made in my life. Business decision. Right. But I say that just because, like, that's my brother, you know, and at the end of the day, I look at where we are now in life and he's still with me. Everyone else is like, they've gone. Families that, you know what I mean, moved on different things, but they're out of that world. But me and my brother are still, you know what I mean, together in that sense. So, yeah, I totally, I totally agree. But let's move along. So question number two. If you had to be an expert in another field besides RPA in software engineering and insurance, what would it be and why? [00:05:00] Speaker B: I'm a big, big, big, big, big, big, big fan of Tony Robbins. I love everything that guy does and everything he touches. Yeah, so much of a fan that like I used to want to be like a motivational speaker slash like life coach. And I saw him and I was like, nah, bro, I just want to join him. I just, I just want the opportunity to work alongside of him. So if I could be an expert in any industry, would be the, I guess to be life coaching or like life transformation? [00:05:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:26] Speaker B: Right. But I honestly feel as though, you know, what I'm doing with coaching and RPA now, like it's going to lend itself well to that because at the end of the day, man, I work primarily with men. And back in the network marketing days, there was this, there was one guy who would always say, like, you know, you go out prospecting, talking to people, gathering names and numbers, and he said, how would you act today? How many people would you talk to today if you knew they were going to say yes? And everybody's like, oh, I'll talk to everybody, right? So in that same sense, it's like when, when I'm coaching a guy and he's trying to get an RPA is like, bro, how hard would you go? How fast would you move? How coachable would you be if you knew you were guaranteed to get the result? At the end of me working, working with you, they'd be like, oh, I'm moving as I know that they can get it, I know what's possible, I know it's capable, right? So a lot of what I do is helping guys remove their self limiting beliefs from their own head that they've put there themselves, Right. And getting them to understand that, like, no, this is simple, I can do it. Especially if I've got a coach, you know, who's got my back type of thing. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I, you know what, I totally agree with you because I am in the life coaching Tony Robbins space and Brendan Bouchard and Stephen Covey, you know, Jim Rohn. So trying to carve out myself and I, I would even say even being a black man, trying to carve out a space for yourself, right? And like, and, and how our community views it. So, yeah, I totally believe what you're doing is life transformational. It's transformational in life because you got to think most, if you, if you think about it, average income in the household in America is like 57k, I think I believe. And that's, and that's like across the board, I think. 57k last time I checked. Right. So if you help somebody to make six figures and they live in like the Midwest, do you like, that's double the national average? You, you literally, you know what I'm saying? And most people, especially even getting out of college now with, with the economy and all this and RPA being that, like that, that blue ocean that nobody really knows about, you know, you literally get in there, you start making 100,000, 120, 1 50. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:38] Speaker A: 2,000 a week. I mean, I talk about myself. I used to work at Domino's flipping burger, flipping pizzas. $12 an hour. Then, you know what I mean? I'm, I'm, I'm not even, I'm not even touching 750 every two weeks, $500 every week. I go now after that, like, not even like a year or two later, you know, get into it, work at Apple. 2,000 a week. You know what I mean? I mean, 400%, 500% what I'm making, you know, you know, back then, so. [00:08:02] Speaker B: Much money that you're like, I don't even know what to do with all of this, bro. You know, so you spend it on stupid stuff. [00:08:08] Speaker A: You know, you got to go through that phase, you know what I'm saying? But it's, it, but you make so much money to the point where everybody sees you as like, everyone starts taking from you and all that. But that's a whole nother conversation, however. But I, I, I totally just want to say, like, yeah, what you're doing is transformational because you, you take somebody, you give them a, a different level of income, you know what I'm saying? Now things that they, that didn't know they had access to, they have access to now. They can go to trips, they can, you know, invest in therapy, invest in coaching, you know, get high level coaching, invest into businesses, stocks, bonds, you know. [00:08:40] Speaker B: You know what a lot of guys are missing. And this isn't even a financial thing. They now have the time, the opportunity to like, not have to Bust their ass and work 40 hours a week, not have to sit in traffic for, you know, two hours a day. Like, they could just work from home and, like, carve out time for themselves to learn a hobby, to rest, to play with kids, to slow down. Yep. [00:09:04] Speaker A: I love what you just said about slowing down. The ability to just be like, you know what? What do I actually want? What am I passionate about? You know, like, using the money from there to go to, like, okay, what am I passionate about? What do I actually want to do? You know what I mean? You find out there's a lot of things you're like, I actually don't really. [00:09:19] Speaker B: Want to do this. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Oh, I was only doing this because I needed to do this so I could get the money. But now that I have the money, you know what? [00:09:26] Speaker B: And that's why I always say, go ahead, or even like, hey, I'm doing this. And it's like, why am I doing this? I'm only doing this because this person wanted me to do this, and I kind of wanted to stay in their good graces because I may have needed a financial favor from them. I don't want to do this anymore, so I don't have to. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:09:40] Speaker B: You know, like, as a grown. And I've learned that's why men have midlife crisis, right? Because you have kids young, right? You get married, you become a family man, and then you look up, you know, at 50, and it's like, bro, I've been doing all these things for all these people, for my mom, my dad, my sisters, my kids. It is like, who am I? What do I want? [00:10:02] Speaker A: When. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Right? And then he realizes, man, I want a fast car and a young girl. And that's. That is legitimately why midlife crisis has happened. Because men don't have the opportunity or they don't take the opportunity to slow down and say, what do I want? Really, genuinely, truly authentically, if I didn't care what anyone else thought about me or my doings, what would I do? [00:10:26] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. I totally agree, and I love that conversation. But let's move along. Question number three is. Last question. Super powerful is, what is one value you believe you could teach all men that would make the world a better place for everyone? [00:10:42] Speaker B: One value that would make them. Honestly, man, I have a. I have a masculinity coach. His name is Miles Cunningham. Super dope guy. One of the things that we talked about, so. So, short answer would be to not care what anyone thinks ever, period. Because I used to think that there is a healthy Level of hearing what people think, right? Like. Like a reputation, so to speak, right? And I've done quite a bit of. I'm fascinated by human nature, right? So I've done quite a bit of research on, like. Like the feeling of embarrassment, right? So, like. Like, why do we have that, like, embarrassment makes us kind of want to hide and not be seen and kind of just get away from everybody, right? And the reason we developed this emotion over time is because it kept us from being exiled from the group, from the tribe, right? So if we've got a group of, you know, 100 people, so many people are responsible for getting food or water or building huts or whatever. And if you do something. If I do something, you know, terrible or dangerous or stupid or whatever, now everybody in the tribe sees me. I look stupid in my. My nature's response is to go hide and do. Stop what I'm doing because I'm embarrassing myself. Stop it and go sit down. Otherwise I'll be outcasted from the group, right? And so I would bring this to my. My coach, and I would say, yeah, I think there's a healthy level of, like, hearing what people think about you, right? And he was like, bro, you only care about being outcasted from the group. If you didn't know how to force for water, if you didn't know how to get food, if you didn't know, you know, how to get your next meal, if you did know how to survive, if you knew how to do all of that shit, you would do what you wanted to do all the time and would not have to worry about being ousted from a community. And I was like, damn, that makes sense. So what it's really about is the acquisition of knowledge, right, that you need in order to become the man you want to be, right? And then from there, not caring what anyone thinks, right? Because it's really hard to get better and look good at the same time, period. This is why we, like, say that again. [00:12:42] Speaker A: Say that. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Really hard to get better and look good at the same time, right? Because if you look at any, like, professional athlete, like. Like a. Like a. Like a Michael Jordan or LeBron James or even. Even, like, figure skaters, right? Like, you see what they do, and it's like, oh, that is beautiful. It's beautiful because they've done it thousands of times and they look stupid when they first started, right? But mastery is beautiful. If you see something. Someone doing something in the outcome, the end result is beautiful. That took a lot of practice. It took a lot of ugly moments. To get to that beauty, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I would say. I would say to learn the, Learn how to figure out, okay, who am I, what do I want? What information do I need to obtain to get, you know, to become. How do I, how do I become the man capable of getting what it is that I want? And part of being able to do that is being able to, like, tune out and not care what they're doing things, because you're going to look silly during the process. You're going to, that's, that's just part of it. [00:13:45] Speaker A: I got nothing to add to that. I think that was beautiful. I think the way you said that, that was just like Chef's kiss, man. Like, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna play that back, listen to that over and over again. But, you know, we brought you on, and I appreciate you answering those three questions, but we brought you on to talk about rpa. What is rpa? And why is this important for any man that wants to break into tech? [00:14:04] Speaker B: Okay, so I'll answer the question because you, you asked it. So RPA is short for Robotic Process automation, right? However, just like many things in it, it's one of those things where, like, okay, I just spelled it out for you. That doesn't tell you any damn thing. You don't know any more than what you just did. Like, you know what three letters means, right? And so if I were to break it down in like a simple fashion, I would say it is, it is a part of the low code, no code effort, right? So it's like we're building software applications that are automating things, right? Because that's all technology is. It's automation of processes. That's it, right? We are building software in a simplified fashion, right? So the example I like to use is, let's say you build homes and I build homes, right? You build homes using brick and mortar, right? It takes a certain level of skill, it takes a certain level of amount of time, right? Let's say that I build homes by 3D printing them, okay? I 3D print one wall, then another wall, then another wall, then I 3D print a roof. Like we're doing the same thing. Mine is just simplified. Mine is probably going to be a lot quicker than yours, right? But at the end of the day, we can both build a quality home, right? So that's kind of what RPA is. And it allows us to kind of glue together, so to speak, a bunch of different applications that really have no business. Like, they don't. They don't talk to or touch each other. Yeah, that's. I think that's the simplest answer that I could give. [00:15:36] Speaker A: I. I think when somebody listens to this, they're probably thinking, okay, that sounds great, but I have no technical background. I have. I know nothing, right? I would love to jump into tech and make all this. And make all this money, but what's the first place I should start? [00:15:52] Speaker B: No technical background. Learn the skill. So there's always. It doesn't matter what. What technical role you want to get in. There's always four steps, and these are the four steps that I teach my guys. 1. Well, you only ask for the first. I'll just give you the first. You need to learn a technical skill. You need to go out here and get a skill that the market deems as valuable, period. Like, because why in the hell would you show up to an interview with no skills? You have nothing to bring to the table. Why would somebody. Would you hire you with no skills? [00:16:21] Speaker A: No, because the. [00:16:22] Speaker B: The least. The lowest thing a person could offer is, is to say, hey, I don't know anything, but I'm excited and ready to work. Like, anybody can do that, right? So, like, at the very minimum, learn a skill, become proficient at the skill, and probably, you know, do some projects that a corporation or maybe even a small business or, you know, a department would find useful, right? You can. And you just show them like, hey, this is a project I've worked on. It does X, Y, and Z. I figured, you know, this department could use something similar to this, you know? [00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I do know what you're saying. I. I like that. But can you give me the other three? Because I'm. I'm super intrigued. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Okay, so. So again, it doesn't matter whether you're trying to get into cyber security. I love making fun of cybersecurity guys. Cybersecurity, rpa, you know, cloud, U. It doesn't matter. The same steps are the same steps. One, you learn a technical skill, okay? Two, you work on your digital footprint, okay? This is your resume. Plus anything that comes up when we Google your name, that is your digital footprint. Right? You and I have been connected on social media for some time now, right? This is our first conversation, but we're familiar with one another to some degree, right? So our first impressions had already been made before our first conversations ever happened. Right? Because we live in a digital world. So your digital footprint in a corporate setting is your resume and anything else that comes up when we Google Your name. So that needs to be right, right? If you have a bunch of negative things that show up, that's, that's awful. You want to, you want to change that. If you have nothing that shows up, that's fine. Nothing is, nothing is good. We just don't want to detract from our image, right? So one is the technical skill. Two is upgrading your digital footprint. Three is having the right social skills, like learning how to interview, right? Learning how to get people to like you. This is what the Dale Carnegie's and you know, the Napoleon Hills talk about. Like, go read a book, right? Go practice your social skills, right? Because at the end of the day, people like working with people who they like. No matter where we're going, we go, right? So you could be the smartest guy in the room and be an asshole and no one likes you, right? So you want to have the right social skills. You want to learn how to interview well, Interview well enough to where you enjoy the process, right? That's the big difference between me and a lot of my colleagues is they're better at software developing, they're better at RPA or whatever. But like they are afraid of interviewing. So they kind of stick to one job for five, 10, 15 years. And it's like, no, I love the process of interviewing. I'm that guy. I'm incredible at what I do, right? And I walk like, and I talk like it. So that's step three. And then step four is having an a, a healthy work ethic when it comes to applying for jobs. And so like you can't apply for three to four jobs a day and think you're gonna like really do something like you might, I've seen it happen. But like most people need to be applying for 20 to 30 jobs a day in my opinion, right? Because if you did all those other three, right? But you only applied for one job a month and one job every other week, there's not a lot's gonna happen. [00:19:27] Speaker A: I actually, on that last note, I tell people 100, 100 applications a day. If you easy apply, you can do 100 applications in an hour, right? [00:19:34] Speaker B: That's true, that's true. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Because you, I mean at the day, like you have to get the reps in, right? If you don't have the skill, if you got the skill and you, and you don't have the job yet, get the reps in by applying, right? So that way you can, that way you can get enough people in the funnel. That's kind of, you just said, you know, if you only talk to. If you're. If you're in sales, you only talk to one or two people, and then you have a zero close ratio. I mean, don't talk to two people. [00:19:58] Speaker B: Like, of course, do the work. [00:20:00] Speaker A: Yeah, there's. There's nothing. You got to prospect more, right? You got to talk to 100, 300 people, right? So that way you can have more conversations, get better, sharpen that iron, right? Those sales chops a lot better and those IT skills. So that way when you go. Because I promise you, after 1, 2, 3, after the 4th. After the 4th interview, you're gonna be like, okay, I already know what question you're gonna ask. Yes, I've heard this so many times before. It's kind of like that. [00:20:24] Speaker B: Assuming. Assuming you improve in between interviews and you don't just keep answering the same terrible question the same terrible way. [00:20:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I should, I should, I should definitely. You know what? Before I even say anything like that, why is it important to get mentorship when. When getting into rpa? [00:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah, Let me get some water. One second. That's a great question. Because, dude. And you know what's funny? Like, I have. So I'm a big fan of stand up comedians. I love country Wayne. I was just. I just saw him in Atlanta this past weekend. It was a blast, right? And I heard him do an interview and he said something. I was like, bro, that is. It's so freaking true. He said, like, he was talking about, like, multiplying money, making more money, right? And he said, you know, no one is going to have a bigger, better vested interest in making me money than me. So he's like, my best investment is always going to be in me. And I was like, man, that makes sense. It's like, whenever I did invest in myself, I always came through. I always got to the next level, right? And whether that's going to college or joining a network marketing organization or starting this business, all. All of those are investments in me. And so I. I have carved out an area of my budget to spend on coaching and mentorship. Mentorship for the rest of my life. Like, I know this is something I want to do because the results are coming. Like, the reason that we're here talking about, I've been doing RPA for, like, almost six years now, right? Like, and I'm. I'm not a private guy, but I'm also not a guy who brags a lot on social media because I'm. I'm too busy having fun, enjoying life to brag, right? So now with social media, the bragging is technically concerned, considered marketing. So it's like, okay, I can, I can do that too, right? I can, I can on these guys, heads if they want me to. Yeah. So hire a mentor. If, if money is just a medium which we use to exchange value, right? And money has no value when you're by yourself. Like, if everyone were to disappear, there's nobody for you to exchange money with to buy anything, right? So money is not my most important asset. It's my time. And so if I'm trying to get to the point where it's like, hey, I want a net worth of $100 million or I want to get into tech, or I, I want a body of us, like a certain physique, whatever the goal is, if I want to get there in the shortest amount of time, which I do, which I think we all do, right. Then it makes sense that I spend money and I hire someone who can cut down that time for me. Right? Like, I've got guys at this point I'm helping with like social media and marketing and, you know, advertising and sales and all that. And it's like, bro, I've only been doing this for three or four months, but I've been doing it with, for three to four months with a coach. You know? You know what I'm saying? So, like, the things that like these guys are learning, I was told up front, I was told out the gate. Not only was I told, I was told how to think. Like, I was told, hey, you're gonna start running ads, and it's going to take 30 to 45 days for you see the results of those ads. So I'm going into it not expecting immediate gratification. It's like, all right, well, the, the time and the money and the energy and the effort I'm putting in now, I'm going to pay off on it. It's going to pay off 30 to 45 days from now, if that makes sense. So a mentor helps you kind of set your expectations so you don't, you don't end up hurting your own feelings because you don't know what the hell you're doing anyway. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So I will actually. Two questions to bounce off of that before we, before we close. One, why RPA versus everything else in tech? Right? Let's really get defined on that. Like, why rpa? Because I think everyone's gonna be okay, RPA sounds good, but why should I really be invested into RPA versus everything else going on? [00:24:07] Speaker B: So YRPA versus okay, so first I also say I'm not the kind of guy, like, though I'm kind of in sales because I run my own business, I am not in the business of convincing anyone to do anything. Bro. You. You could do anything in tech you want to do, right? I am a simple person, okay? I think I'm rather intelligent, but I'm definitely not the smartest guy on earth, right? I'm not super passionate about tech or anything like that. I'm passionate about getting paid. Here, let me, let me, Let me. Let me turn my little thing around and show you this, okay? This is, this is. This is what I'm passionate about, okay? Is that. Is that clear? On camera? [00:24:43] Speaker A: Take care of those I love. Have fun in the process. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Have fun in the process. That's it. Period. Okay? So if I said to you, all right, bro, you can make, you can make. There's a guy I know, he's killing it, bro. This. This young man is killing. Younger than me, make more money than me. He's. I love talking to him. And he's probably making, you know, 300, $400,000 a year, right? Doing, like, cloud engineering and all those other stuff that I don't know how to do. It's too complicated for me. Don't want to learn, don't care to learn it, right? And I don't know how many hours he works, right? But it's also like, all right, but if you have the lifestyle where you could work an hour to a day and pull in 200,000, would you do that? Or would you rather work? Or you can learn how to get there in six months, or would you rather spend 12 to 18 months to study to, then you get a job where you're working 8, 9, 10 hours a day, and now you're making 300,000. Like, which would you rather do? [00:25:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, give me the first one. [00:25:44] Speaker B: It's simple. I want. I want a simple, fun, fast way to get to the lifestyle that it is that I'm trying to create. And so far, and I'm glad we're on this podcast right now, I've made this same challenge to several people. No one has brought me back anything yet. Rpa, in my opinion, is the simplest skill, tech skill that anyone can learn today, right now, okay? April 2024, and get into tech. It is the simplest skill. If you can find me a skill simpler, I will pay $1,000. Anybody watching? If you can find anything simpler, I'll personally pay you. I will cash app you a thousand dollars. Guys come and they Join my course. And they're like, man, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I can do it. I say, all right, bro, come on in. Watch the videos. And then we get on the group calls. I say, hey, any problems, any troubles, any issues? Are you stuck anywhere? Everyone? It's like eight, nine people on the call. Anyone stuck? Nope. It's pretty simple. It's just like you said it was. Thank you. You should have been, gave me your money, bro. You should have been come over here. Simple. [00:26:48] Speaker A: It's simple if invested in yourself. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah. If there were a simpler way to do it, I'd be doing it. Because like, like, in order to scale anything, it needs to be simple. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. In order to get to the point where, you know, I've got a big project in front of me, I know it was going to take me, you know, 15 hours to do. In order to get to the point where, like, I think I can get this 15 hour project done in like the next four or five if I really just sit and grind. Like, it needs to be simple. [00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:19] Speaker B: For me to be able to do something like that. Right. So it's the simplest, is the simplest technology out there right now. And then two, there's not a lot of people who know about it, Right. Like a lot of times guys message me and they say, man, I've never heard of rpa. Tell me more about it. I don't know what it is. And my first response is like, no, I'm not talking about rpa. It's simple. That's something you can learn in two weeks. Tell me what your goals are. Tell me why you're here. Tell me, you know, tell me that. You know, you've got a woman who you love, who you really desperately want to marry her, but her father won't accept you because you don't make enough money. Let's talk about that. And then from there, let's talk about how much money you need to make to make that happen. And then let's talk about RPA salary starting around 80, 85, 90,000. And if that's more than what you're currently making, bro, then let's, let's do the damn thing. Let's make a deal, let's shake hands, let's start, let's do something. Because I guarantee if you can't learn this, you're not gonna learn nothing else. Okay? So it doesn't matter how difficult this is. It is the simplest thing that is out in the marketplace Today. Right. So if you're gonna take a bet, take a bet on yourself. Take a bet with me. I'm. I'm a very authentic guy. I don't lie. I'm not good at lying, which is the reason why I don't do it. And I'm telling you that this is the simplest. It is the simplest technology there is out there. That's why I chose it. [00:28:37] Speaker A: So I have really two last questions because I'm so intrigued. One, timeline of learning. How quick can somebody really, like, take this down and. And. And get to. Let's not say mastery, but the ability to say, you know what? I. I know. And I. I know enough to get that job. To get that first job and get that first. Yes. [00:28:58] Speaker B: Okay. So pre answer to that. You really don't know how good you need to be in order to get a job until you see how well people who are doing it professionally are doing it. Have you ever worked with someone doing something and you're like, bro, this person sucks at this. They do the same thing you do, but they suck at. Okay, so could you train someone to be better than them? [00:29:19] Speaker A: Oh, 100. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Of course. Okay, now, how long has that person been doing it? Years? [00:29:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:25] Speaker B: I don't know. Okay. But you could probably train someone to do something in months that this person who sucks does it. You see what I'm saying? So. So, yeah, it's all relative to how well the average person does it. Right? Like. Like, I think we were. I was watching the. The Last Dance, the documentary about the Bulls, and before Jordan got there, like, his rookie year or whatever. Like, the average player on the Chicago Bulls was a crackhead. They didn't have very high standards. The average NBA player, like, they just played to make money. They're not passionate about it. You see what I'm saying? So the average of anything is usually not very good. So that's the pre answer. The second pre answer is the thing that separates me from the rest of my competitors. All these. These freaking boot camps out here is they just wanted, like. They just want to, like, teach you things. They want you to learn things. That's like. I kind of get annoyed when people inbox me and they're like, yeah, I'm here to learn. And it's like, I get it. There's nothing wrong with learning, but, like, let's get employed. You should be here to get employed, not to learn. Because if all I did was teach you something, I'm doing you a disservice. You could have went on YouTube. So let's get employed. That's why you work with me is six months time period or less. All right? You are guaranteed to be employed in tech as an RPA developer. Right? Now, if we're just talking about learning the skill set well enough to where you could do a job, two months. Now, the harder part, the hardest part of that is going to be getting the job, not learning the skill. [00:30:58] Speaker A: The skill is irrelevant if you don't know how. If you can't take what you've learned, put it on a resume, get your digital footprint out there, and then increase your social skills. So that way you can. Somebody could be like, yes, yes. [00:31:11] Speaker B: It's not. That's almost like me asking you, how long does it take to learn how to shoot a proper free throw? Weeks. It doesn't take a lot. It doesn't take a lifetime. It doesn't take years to. You see what I'm saying? So this is a simple enough skill to like, all right, you can learn the freaking skill. And then from there, let's talk about. Because the. The. The. The people who, who stick in my program the longest mean they take the longest to get employed are people who have the most limiting beliefs to begin with, right? Most of our time is going to be spent getting you out of your head so that you can take action, so that you can believe that you can get the outcome of being employed. Because I've worked with guys who I'm like, bro, you shouldn't be employed because you're terrible. But they're doing it, so why can't you? [00:32:00] Speaker A: Wow. Okay. Okay, A.D. thank you, man. Thank you so much for coming on. But, you know, before we go, I want to give you the last word. It could be a quote, it could be a story, it could be a mantra. It could be a lesson. What is something that you want to tell us before we stop listening to this podcast? [00:32:25] Speaker B: Have fun. Have fun. Everything is supposed to be fun. This conversation is happening. This is fun, right? When I'm done with this, I'm going to go back to working on my business. I'm going to throw some music on. I'm going to have fun, right? I'm going to go home, play with my kids. Tonight, I'm going to have fun. Everything in life, in my opinion, is supposed to be fun. If it's not fun, you're not supposed to be doing it or you're supposed to find a way to enjoy the process of doing it. Now, I will say working out that. That could some kind of, like, in the gym pumping art that can. That sometimes can be hard to be fun because it's painful. Right. But it's like, I'm. Don't, bro. No, bro. I'm seriously, I'm doing. I'm doing curls. I'm doing shoulder press, and every. Every rep. I'm like, I'm sexy. Oh, I'm sexy. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:08] Speaker B: I have to motivate myself somehow, and that's fun to me. Right. Even sharing the story with you now is. Is fun to me. So I would say have fun. Find a way to have fun. And whatever is. Whatever it is you're doing. [00:33:20] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:33:22] Speaker B: Ad. [00:33:23] Speaker A: Ad with the sauce. I appreciate it so much. I'm definitely got to have you back on, but you heard it here first. Your legacy starts today.

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